Interview With EMF Expert And Brain Tumor Survivor Lloyd Morgan

28 April 1995 started out just like any other Friday.

He was lunching in an Indian restaurant with a work colleague.

Then half-way through the meal…..bam.

His body started convulsing violently, uncontrollably and he lost consciousness.

He had a 45 minute “Grand Mal” brain seizure. They rushed him to hospital in an ambulance where the doctors told him he had a massive brain tumor.

He spent the next 8 days in intensive care fighting for his life.

Fortunately the MRI scan showed that the tumor was operable, but the doctors told him if they didn’t operate immediately it might be fatal.

After a grueling 12 hour operation the tumor was removed, a couple of days later he left the hospital.

During the post-surgery follow up there was one question and one question only on his mind, “how did I get this thing?”

He'd never heard of getting a brain tumor from food poisoning before but he was ready to believe anything.

Anything except what he was about to be told.

The neurosurgeon turned to him and replied, “perhaps electromagnetic fields.”

He was stunned.

Why Was He So Stunned?

Because he thought he knew all about EMFs.

Our brain tumor victim isn't just an informed person.

He's an electrical engineer with substantial scientific training.

Immediately he started looking at the studies again

This being 1995 there were few studies on cell phone radiation. But he discovered from electrical utilities, the Electric Power Research Institute in particular, that there was a statistically significant risk for brain tumors from electric fields and for leukemia.

“Being a little naive at the time he said to himself, ‘well if this is in the science paper, why doesn’t the public know?’”

Now he knows why, “science is necessary but not sufficient. Until you can put it into the public domain it doesn’t really matter. It matters only within this small club that we call scientists, but the public has to know what the science says and that is what has been suppressed so far.”

For the last 20 years he's been busy putting the science into the public domain, and that's what he's doing next Thursday as my next interview guest.

Lloyd Morgan EMF expertHis name is Lloyd Morgan and he's now senior research fellow at the Environmental Health Trust.

He's also a member of the Bioelectromagnetics Society, a board member of the International Electromagnetic Field Alliance, Scientific Advisor of the EM Radiation Research Trust and a columnist for Powerwatch UK.

He's the author of two legislative Acts mandating cancer registry data collection of all brain tumors, malignant and non-malignant, one in California (passed into law in 2000), and the other in the USA Congress (passed into law in 2002).

He's also a prolific researcher. He's published research papers on cell phones and tumors, cell phone use in children and adolescents, occupational and residential EMFs, and dirty electricity.

Lloyd Interviews Lloyd

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  • Anna said,

    I would like to know what to do to protect our family from EMF radiation at home.

  • LC said,

    I would like to know what a safer distance would be from my smart meter or wifi or other device? From what I understand, the radiation drops every foot you are away from the radiation.

  • patrick said,

    Looking forward to seminar

  • Valerie Sobel said,

    Thank you Lloyd for your work. I have a library on the subject, as I lost my 18 year old in 1995 to a malignant and inoperable brain tumor.
    See my website….happy to share what I know from my UK and Austrien sources
    With gratitude and respect
    Valerie Sobel
    Pres. ASRL

  • min hua said,

    I would like to know how the geographic stress (Ley line, water cross, metal interference, etc) affect our health. If the geographic stress and EMF combines in the house or work place, etc, what kind of effect to the health. How to detect the geographic stress? Dowsing?

  • Jon Draw said,

    Hello Lloyd,
    Approximately 8 months ago, after considering information about meters for monitoring non-ionizing microwave radiation and some of lesser frequencies on your website, I purchased an ED 78S Cornet meter.
    I had for some time been exclusively monitoring the radiation penetrating my home and unfortunately me, as well as everything else around my home such as my fine dog, birds, bees, and of course all plants. We often only consider the hazards to ourselves, as we should, but we should never forget the rest of the eco-system of which we are a part. If they are adversely affected, such will no doubt be eventually transferred to us as well. Therefore, I think that research should be also focused upon birds and bees which both are involved in the pollination of food crops, whether wild or domesticated, and of course we eat the food that we grow in our gardens as well as the berries that grow wild and do not wish to have them damaged so irresponsibly. And we love our pets and do not wish any of the same to be visited upon them.
    I live within 300 meters or less from the cell phone tower which was constructed without any public input from the affected neighborhood. I realized that I was getting an uncomfortable amount of radiation prior to and especially after I was able to monitor it with my Cornet. Curiosity brought me to carry my meter closer to the cell phone tower to determine what the neighbors living much closer to the tower than I, was getting. It was unfortunately twice as bad as what I was experiencing and I related such to two different households showing them my meter and its readings. I do not like to bother my neighbors otherwise and have not since communicated with them about such radiation, but I did want especially to get such information to families with young children, one of which had two.
    I also mentioned how they could get information on the net if they wished. I occasionally walk my dog, or at times he more likely could be said to be dragging me!, around the neighborhood, during which I try to take my meter with me so that if a conversation might be struck with any new people I could also give them similar information. I do think that there is probably considerable truth in the expression that I have encountered more than once lately which refers to “Quiet weapons for silent wars”.
    I had for some time given less notice to the lower frequency modes of the meter LF600 and LF30 which I think are more related to the radiation coming off the (not so) Smart Meters, one of which had been installed, without my prior knowledge, on my power pole approximately 30 meters or less from my house and closer to the smaller hut in which we lived before building our larger home.
    I use the hut now for storage and a small work area in the porch enclosure since it had been wired when we lived therein. While refurbishing this porch area lately, I noticed a certain slight numbness (for want of a better way of describing it) in my head area. I had already checked the radiation immediately at the Electric digital (smart??) meter and realized that it would be stronger there but wondered why the sensation in the porch area which is about 15 meters or less from the electric meter.
    Then I realized that there is a “circuit-breaker box” in the porch area on the external wall of the hut, and verified that there was a strong reading, with the lights going up, out of the green, into the yellow zone, on my Cornet meter emanating from the wiring coming out of that box which has two main breakers in it for a total of 100 amps. The maximum reading on the LF2mode (50 Hz to 1KHz frequency was .44 micro Teslas, with a maximum of 1.2 micro Teslas. We lay-people are at somewhat of a disadvantage in comprehending this in that we are not educated in thinking in these terms. The small numbers are not to be taken lightly considering the essence of what microwaves or even lesser frequency electro-magnetic waves are, and their actual effects when impinging upon our bodies and our eco-systems.
    Is my suspicion correct that this would be called “dirty electricity” caused by that “not-so-smart” meter? I have read or heard somewhere recently that they have a way of “dumping” unused(??) or unwanted electric current or pulses into our household circuitry, just to get it grounded in that manner? Could this be explained more clearly for us?
    I also, about a month ago, visited the local electric utility office and voiced my concerns. The lady was not very receptive to my thoughts, and I think had been programmed to tell the customers that these smart meters are a “done deal” or “fait accompli” as the French would say. Well, perhaps we have not yet begun our action… While there, just to be objectively informative, I showed her that sitting there at her desk with my meter, that we were getting twice the radiation that I get at the worst at my home. She said that they had a computer “brain” in a back room and a number of Wi-Fi routers in the office there. At least I hope that I got her to start thinking about her own and co-workers welfare.
    Perhaps Lloyd Burrell, you can pick out what you want from my account here to submit appropriate questions for your guest on Thursday.
    Best regards to you both as well as all of the rest of our friends who are trying to bring humanity back to our mode of living.

    Thank you! Jon Draw with my canine (predominately Karelian Bear Dog) SpiritBuddy


  • Renee said,

    Dear Anna,
    It’s great that you want to understand how best to protect your family.
    SO – Get busy and learn! Don’t expect the experts to spoonfeed you. There’s a TON OF INFO online – just waiting for you to discover! Start with Lloyd’s site, check out Dr Magda Havas, look up the BioInitiative Report, learn about smart meters – explore links.

    Take responsibility; do your own research. And don’t expect the government to be a reliable source of info: It’s not.

  • valerie said,

    I like Min Hua’s question and would also appreciate an answer to this !

  • BJ Arvin said,

    I researched this so deep I believe I earned at least an honorary degree in electrical engineering! I believe the levels that the US gov. call “safe” (which they damn well know are NOT), will someday show to be a crime against humanity. Utilities need to answer WHY Smart meters are NOT UL approved!

  • richard rowland said,

    I also like min hua is a specific field of knowledge in a biodynamic garden I understand that energy creates matter and that energy can also neutralise neg.energies..just as some plants will work on the body clearing neg.bacteria and not the good bacteria. short ..but this a complexed field of life..richard

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