Living With Electrical Sensitivity – The Social Aspect

A few days ago I received this email:

Hi Lloyd!

My name is Rachel. My husband and I run a health blog called Modern Life Survivalist ( You “might” know me more from my Google+ account you added awhile back (Rachel Dahl).

I was interested in interviewing you about your website via Skype video….. We'd be so honored to have you be our first video guest on Modern Life Survivalist.

If you will be so kind to share your time with us, please let me know when a good time(s) for you is.

We are from the East Coast of the US (Maryland) Are you currently living in France? We will have to figure out what times will work best.

electrical sensitivity - the social aspectI sent an email back to Rachel suggesting we have a quick Skype call so I could understand what she wanted to interview me about.

Yesterday we chatted for about 20 minutes. She explained to me the reason she wanted to interview me.

She said she was very interested in my work and that Rob, who is her husband and work colleague at, was too. She said she’d like to interview me in a general sense about ‘how to protect yourself from EMFs’ but that she’d also like to talk about the ‘living with someone who is ES’, ‘social aspect’ of electrical sensitivity. She explained that Rob was electrically sensitive and she talked about how much of a challenge electrical sensitivity was not only for Rob but for their relationship.

I said I’d be thrilled to be interviewed on this particular aspect of electrical sensitivity. So we're doing the interview this Friday!

Interview Details

The interview will take place Friday July 3, 2015 ; 8am PST (10am Central, 11am Eastern) and there is a chat room set up so you can participate and get your questions answered.

Update 4 July – The interview has now been broadcast you can watch it here:

Comments are welcome below.

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  • Hal said,

    Hah, excellent! I (and girlfriend) can TOTALLY relate! Can’t make the live time but will catch the replay for sure. P.S. Hurry please, before police intervene.

  • Tara said,

    I’ll be driving at that time but I’d love to hear a podcast afterwards. I’m sensitive to EMF’s and my partner would like more info too. The social aspect is HUGE as most people are more addicted to their electronics, that it’s hard to care much about the ‘possibility’ that those EMF’s might affect their loved ones or friends! crazy world……

  • Shelley said,

    I will be away at a cottage, girls retreat during the interview. I have my EMF canopy with me, for the lower bunk bed, and everyone is respectful to have their technology on “airplane mode”, while using their apps. I’m so lucky to have a supportive group of friends. I miss out on many public activities, because I can’t tolerate the signals. I wish, just like smoking, WiFi was banned in public places, so these places could be accessible to everyone.

  • Lee in S.F. said,

    This was an enjoyable interview, Lloyd. I appreciated learning your evolving perspectives as you first grappled with the EMF issue, and eventually, figured out how you wanted to help people learn about it.

    As for the social repercussions, it will definitely be good to get the public better informed about EHS and its effects–so that people don’t knee-jerk dismiss it as a weird non-issue.

    Here’s an experience I had. In 2012, on a holiday week-end, I went to a movie. For that viewing, I was lucky to get a seat at all, but I found one in the center of one of the high up stadium rows. There was quite a bit of time left before the movie started, and all was well initially. However, the “saved” seat next to me quickly became occupied by a teen. Almost as soon as she arrived, I felt my right side hip “go off” in pain (because for some reason, that hip is hyper-sensitive). I knew from the hip pain that a cell phone was near-by, so I cranked my head around, looking for the source. While I looked, she took out her phone to check texts. So I told her (as nicely as I could) that I was sensitive to cell phone fields.

    I knew from the instantly resentful look on her face, when I said, “Excuse me,” however, that she didn’t care to have me talking to her. As I made my request, she glared and shot me daggers (like only an irritated teen girl can do). She said her cell would be off during the movie. Well, I couldn’t wait that long (and to be frank, I didn’t believe her). Because the movie house rules don’t call for cells to be off until the movie starts, she was within her rights. So I simply left. I have not been back to the movie theaters since then, because I don’t care to deal with cell phones kept on by those who may sit next to me.

    Sharing cars with friends who are strong cell phone users can also be troublesome (including cabbies). I’d prefer to never be in the small closed space of a car, with someone’s cell phone on, or (worse) with someone using blue tooth built into the car itself. It’s something I seem to need vigilance about, and it can sometimes feel awkward to practice self-care when riding with a cell phone user. For example, a cell user will tend to be prone to putting the phone down anywhere, without giving the placement much thought (seeming to always forget that proximity to me is everything). Therefore, after each phone use, it’s often necessary for me to ask that the phone be put at a further distance from me than where it got haphazardly placed. I sometimes feel like a fussy person, or a complainer, when I make these reminders, especially if I need to speak up several times during any given trip. I would rather that I didn’t have to do that.

    Going out to eat with people who put their cells on the table top during the meal is also a challenge. Where they put the down after they have used it, is something that again becomes an issue. Because people often don’t
    “get” the EHS experience yet, they can be well-meaning in saying something like: there, I’ve put it away in my purse (with the purse being on the floor, right by my feet).

    Freedom from reminding people to move the phone away from me would depend upon the public being better-educated about EHS issues than they are. My hope would be that the public could practice the same courtesy that smokers have learned to practice by not blowing second-hand smoke in others’ spaces. For me, sometimes it’s a matter of feeling continually awkward in making reminders, or of paying a price for saying nothing (something I have done at times, but have done anxiously–and which I now don’t wish to repeat doing, because putting the body into anxiety like that surely makes EHS sensitivities worse!). It’s definitely true that trying to manage and/or avoid such circumstances does affect my social interactions.

  • bob caranza said,

    Not sure if you have microwave towers, smart meters and Chemtrails in the city of France but in the US we have them everywhere. Any suggestions on protecting yourself in these instances?

  • Vincent Marchand said,

    Not sure if you have microwave towers, smart meters and Chemtrails in the city of France but in the US we have them everywhere. Any suggestions on protecting yourself in these instances?

  • Jrff said,

    I am interested in the video…all is the “update” notice. How to access video? Thanks

  • Lloyd Burrell said,

    Hi Vincent & Jrff
    If you can’t see the video this is most likely due to a browser issue. To troubleshoot:
    – make sure you have the latest version of your browser installed
    – load the page with another browser, Google Chrome and Firefox usually work well
    – there can be issues accessing some pages of this site with a computer tablet, desktops and laptops work better.

  • Margaret Alcorn said,

    Hello Loyd – I am a elder citizen. After using a p.c. and wireless phone for several years before I had a reaction. This happened soon after I got a “smart” phone
    which I kept at my bedside table to use as an alarm. Before the smart phone I had had mysterious, but common symptoms for at least a year – dizzy, nausea, pain all over. Then I found out about EMFs from your website. It fit pretty much. I started having a feeling of heaviness on the top of my head – and really sick feeling. I had these episodes at home, once in a Dr. office, I unhooked my comcast modome which had WiFi I unhooked the PC I got rid of the wireless phone, smart phone,etc. I thought I was home free, but, no, not to be. I unplugged the TV. Then I realized that my long standing sensitivity to electric
    light was part of this syndrome, if you want to use that term. Now when I sit too close to an electric light or under one in the ceiling I get sick, shaky, nervous and unable to think clearly. This is going to ruin what life I have left. Question 1. How can I get the Internet without Wifi? 2. Is there really anything that can protect us from this poisonous stuff? I now use my old cell phone that I can turn off Wifi. I do not and never have used a cell phone much until I got the smart phone (so much fun!)… I also now have a corded phone.I am now concerned about the reaction to electric light. I also have a reaction to bright sunlight, which I had before I had a computer.
    I hope you can help. Thank you. Margaret

  • Lloyd Burrell said,

    Hi Margaret
    The safest way to access the Internet is with an Ethernet cable….in other words a hard wired connection, as opposed to ‘wireless’. That might mean changing your modem/router for one that enables a hard-wired connection. If you don’t know how to do this ask your Internet provider or local computer shop, see also

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