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October 6, 2013
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Nice to see a forum like this. I’ve been Electro Hypersensitive for about 15 years. When I finally connected the dots and realized that electromagnetic fields were a problem for me, I ravaged the internet for info. Back then there was precious little on the subject. It’s great to see a sea change happening. At the same time, it’s pretty unfortunate how far down the road of electromagnetic pollution we’ve collectively come since then. Wireless tech is practically inescapable. I’ve gotten really good at controlling my environment so that I forget I’m EH for long periods of time. I live in a rural area where it’s easier to have this kind of control. Even though I’m a couple thousand feet from the nearest neighbor, I had some problems when I moved in (actually, from 2 neighbor’s devices). Both allowed me to replace their standard cordless phones with some that don’t fire RF when they aren’t being actively used (Gigaset from Germany). But I’ve found there’s almost no way to keep the radiation away forever…not if I want to have any kind of social life…

From time to time something new will come into the house with friends; a smart phone, smart key for a Prius, some other wireless gadget and I’ll gradually descend into the depths of inflammation until I can find the offending source and shut it down. I’ve actually just come out of a 2 week period of mystery symptoms. I have friends staying with me from out of town and they inadvertently brought a smart key for their car into the house. I always think I’m going crazy at first, that it’s all in my head. Even after 15 years! The RF meters usually quell that pretty quickly as I confirm that there is indeed a source of radiation which my nervous system knows is there even though my head doesn’t. And when I find the source and shut it off or remove it from the house, I begin to feel better. This time, though, my meters didn’t pick up the signal. And the symptoms gradually got worse for 2 weeks. I’ve found that some devices have such a brief signal, that even expensive meters have trouble catching it. The signal may fire frequently but if it’s brief enough, the EMF field doesn’t linger long enough for the meters to pick it up. Atleast that’s my current theory. And I know that the frequency was well within the meter’s capacity to detect. In the end, fortunately, I found the offending EMF source based on my symptoms and a lot of detective work. Those smart keys are a MENACE. I keep discovering new technology to watch out for.

Moving on…feeling much more stable and energized, I decided to sit down in my home music studio and do some recording today. I’m an artist and musician and I love technology even though I have these problems with it. I guess it’s a love-hate sortof thing. I do my work on a computer and I try not to let my sensitivity run my life. Since wireless is the main offending source of problems for my nervous system, I wire everything. Mostly that works out, but there are a couple of things in the studio that make my head feel like it’s in a vice and that I’m going to explode with nervous tension. Atleast, if I spend any extended time in there. I have my suspects but I haven’t confirmed which equipment is causing my problems yet. I’ve tested everything with my meters but my Gauss meter is a bit crappy and not very sensitive. I spent the big bucks on my RF/Microwave meters. And it’s the magnetic fields or dirty A/C I’m having problems with in the music studio. I’m entertaining the possibility that it’s all of the equipment together that’s causing problems. Like the overall field from all of the equipment collectively. The really frustrating part of this is that I can’t spend long periods of time in there. Which means I can’t get deeply into the music. Which means my yearning for musical experimentation and exploration remains in the yearning state and rarely expresses as satisfaction or fulfillment with having gone deeply into the creative experience. Which sucks! But I got an idea today!

I sleep inside an awesome bed canopy which blocks most of the stray and lingering electromagnetic pollution left in the house. There also seems to be a connection with the pineal gland, melatonin and EMF fields. But that’s another post altogether. So, I want to make sure I’m healing the way the body likes to do during sleep. And it works. It’s an amazing thing this canopy. I get fantastic sleep. And for an EH person, knowing you are sleeping somewhere safe is a rare and precious feeling…

Ok, so back to the idea I had. I ordered a new meter (which should arrive today) which will hopefully be more sensitive than what I currently have. I’m going to place the various digital and analog musical equipment inside the canopy temporarily and, with the new Gauss meter, test from outside the canopy to see if the canopy will effectively block the EMFs. If it does, I’m going to order pieces of the same cloth (which is woven with silver thread and grounded) and wrap the stuff I’m not currently using or that isn’t ‘active’ equipment. Such as the speakers (which I suspect is my biggest problem in there) and the mixer and other interfaces. The rest I can turn on temporarily and shut off when I’m done with it ie.the keyboards, drum machine etc. The fabric is fairly porous and breathable so it shouldn’t appreciably effect the sound from the speakers. Anyway, I have high hopes for this. I’d love to be able to get into the studio hours a day and not have to feel rushed and pressured to bang something out before I have an EMF meltdown!

Damn, it’s great to be able to share this kind of thing with people that will probably understand what the hell iIm talking about. I’m open to any ideas folks have on the music studio protection mission.

I guess I strayed a bit from simply introducing myself. Great to be here.

*J

October 8, 2013
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Hi J
Here are some quick thoughts on your music room issues…..I might be stating the obvious, but sometimes the obvious needs stating….to get to the bottom of this you need to:
1. effectively measure and identify the source of the offending EMFs
2. effectively do something about them (mitigation or elimination)
So the starting point is being able to measure these EMFs……you need some good meters to do this, and EMF meters that cover all the bases, thats to say magnetic fields, electric fields, RF radiation and dirty electricity. This is the minimum. So either buy the meters that enable you to do this or get someone in to do it for you….I realize finances can be an issue, nevertheless this is your top priority…..if you haven’t got the funds today, save up so that you take the necessary action tomorrow.
BTW If the problem is magnetic fields its unlikely that the canopy you are using will change anything, if its DE it may help….

October 10, 2013
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Hi Lloyd

Thanks for the reply. Also thanks for all the energy you’ve put into making this site and keeping it up. I really appreciate your efforts in terms of education and providing a place for people to share info on this subject.

I actually tried to post a long reply yesterday and it never made it to post. I have to remember to copy everything before trying to post in case things get lost in the internet ether before they make it to the forum.

1. I have now measured everything in the room and all of the equipment so I have a pretty good idea of what’s going on. I already had some good RF meters. I recently purchased a Trimeter for the magnetic and electric fields. I had 2 Gauss meters but they were fairly useless in terms of their sensitivity. The Trimeter seems much improved.

a. QUESTION: Isn’t dirty electricity just a magnetic or electric field in nature but that manifests as ‘leakage’?
b. All of the electrical equipment produces magnetic fields, some worse than others. The speakers, computer and drum machine produce the strongest fields. All of the fields decay fairly quickly from 1 to 4 inches from the unit. Therefore, according to the meter, only my hands are actually in any of the fields for a prolonged period. The speakers are unique in that the field gets larger as the volume goes up.

2. I discovered that the wiring in the room I had the equipment in is probably messed up. ANYTHING I plugged into that room in any of the outlets created a massive dirty electrical field from the wall behind me that engulfed almost half the room and which I was half-sitting in while working at the music station. I think this was my biggest problem to start with. I moved all of the equipment into another room that doesn’t have this wiring problem. The outlets themselves measure negligibly and plugging devices in doesn’t create a frighteningly big field. All is normal/ relatively safe now on that front.

3. Mitigation is going to be the solution to the rest of my problem I think. The first idea I have is to try and shield my hands. Not sure if this is possible though without a faraday cage (and I don’t cherish cutting off my hands so they can be safely shielded within the enclosure). I purchased some silk glove liners (as insulators) and some highly conductive gloves to go on top of those. I was going to attempt to ground the gloves and see if I could successfully divert the field my hands are in while insulating my hands with the silk liners. Is this totally ridiculous? I have the gloves and liners so I’m going to try this today.

4. I don’t fully understand why the mesh I have over my bed doesn’t shield magnetic fields. You’re right, it doesn’t. But, It works beautifully for RF mitigation. Is it the size of the mesh that dictates weather or not it will block magnetic fields? Or is it simply not conductive enough because it’s only woven with metal fiber instead of being ‘made of metal fiber? I’ve read quite a few posts online about copper mesh for Faraday cages. What I can’t get straight is whether these people are only trying to block RF fields or if these are for magnetic fields as well. Really tough to find the specific info on this. It also looks like Faraday cages have 2 layers, in essence an inner and outer box. Is that part of the key to how it works?

a. Do you have any suggestions in terms of shielding the separate pieces of equipment? The issue is that I need to be able to see the drum machine and the buttons and to touch them. Can I accomplish this with some type of metallic mesh cage? Or maybe the shielded glove idea will work?
b. Do you think wearing a full-body suit (somewhat like what the electric lineman use) would solve the whole problem? Like a Faraday cage for my body?

THANKS,
*J

October 11, 2013
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Tried the gloves just now = fail. Cry

Sadly, it’s starting to look like shielding magnetic fields to a large degree would involve the use of Mu metal.

I’ve tested this product: http://www.harapad.com/ and it works. By ‘work’ though, wgat I mean is that it protects the area directly on the other side of the plate. Which is fairly useless for Electro sensitive people since the fields are still emanating in every other direction… But I wonder what metals they’re using. Could potentially be used for real shielding.

*J

October 16, 2013
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Hi J
Mu Metal is expensive because it contains nickel. A cheaper alternative is to use Giron which contains no nickel, it shields very effectively and is comparatively cheap. You can buy it by the linear foot from lessemf.

October 19, 2013
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Hi Lloyd

Thanks for the suggestion. I just stumbled onto that stuff myself while researching a couple of days ago. Nickel is expensive AND nasty stuff. Looks like Giron is worth a try.

*J

November 27, 2013
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Hi, my name is Christopher.I would like to share an experience that started worrying me.

I just bought a new laptop (previously i was working on a desktop) and i noticed the following :
I get extreme headaches in a few minutes that might take even 2 days to disappear!

At the beginning, i thought it was a wrong posture but then i searched on Google about EMF’s and i found
Lloyds site and videos.

Now, i am 90% sure that EMR is causing me this severe headaches because as further away from the laptop headaches develop more slowly and not in the same intense.

I want to ask Lloyd are the EMF’s of laptop’s so strong ?
I have a wired connection on the internet (not wireless) but still it caused me severe headaches
and a little brainfog.How this can happening on me ?
I mean, so many people use laptop and especially with wireless connections, dont they have headaches ? Because i never
heard anyone complaining.

Also, my desktop screen and desktop also emits EMF but even if i sit for 3 hours continuously i’m still fine.
Can my laptop emit more EMR ? The distance is about the same not to mention now my laptop is further.
But the most irritating is the headaches and thats a sign that something goes wrong and who knows what other effects
has on our health.Again why the headaches so fast ?

Sorry for the long post but its really disturbing.I think it needs more awareness as it is an invincible threat that most people ignore.

December 11, 2013
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It’s a shock when suddenly you become electrically sensitive….it was for me…..it literally came on from out of the blue when I was using my cell phone….and its difficult to believe its happening even when your symptoms are so real because nobody seems to be aware of these dangers. A laptop can trigger what you are describing…..I encourage you to continue your research and avail yourself of the solutions as laid out in my Free Report and other resources.

December 16, 2013
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Lloyd said

It’s a shock when suddenly you become electrically sensitive….it was for me…..it literally came on from out of the blue when I was using my cell phone….and its difficult to believe its happening even when your symptoms are so real because nobody seems to be aware of these dangers. A laptop can trigger what you are describing…..I encourage you to continue your research and avail yourself of the solutions as laid out in my Free Report and other resources.

So, do i have electrical sensitivity ? My laptop is now 3 feet away from me, i use wired mouse and keyboard , the headaches are a lot less strong..so its ok somehow.
So did your cell phone caused your ES ? I was with a friend of mine yesterday at his home and i was surrounded for 5 hours from wireless devices (modems,phones,keybords,mouse etc.) pc & screen.
i returned home with extreme headaches.I went to bed and i couldn’t sleep all night, i closed my eyes and i was seeing lights in my head.Anyways, i had a terrible sleep .
Could that be ES or is it just a reaction from my body because its not used to long periods on EMF’s and Radiation exposure ? I honestly think the second one cause besides headaches
i dont have any other symptoms.What do you say ?

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