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EMF White Zones and Safe Places in the US
May 20, 2013
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I received this email from Rob States:

“Here is an update on my Silent Dome Spa in Grass Valley, CA.

EMF SILENT HOUSE
I have built a home in the Sierra Nevada mountains about 10 miles South of Grass Valley that is electromagnetically silent. The house is over 2 miles from any cell towers, and all power to the house is filtered. The house itself is designed with a combination of DC powered LED lights and low EMF emission appliances. The dome has E&M silent computers so sensitives can email while there, and use the same setup when they return home.

TRANSPORTATION

We will have an EMF silent automobile parked at the Grass Valley airport for you to drive to the dome, and for local erands. Grass Valley itself has cell service, but the car will largely protect occupants.

LEARNING CENTER
The intent of this home is to provide EMH sensitives a place to detox from symptoms, to get EMH testing, and to meet other sensitives. The long term goal is to publicize the techniques to cope with this disease, particularly nutrition, clothing, and other healing modalities. Also, the house has a variety of healing professionals that are available during residency.

TERRAIN
The property is 11 acres of heavy forest with a creek that runs 12 months per year. All vegetation is native, with no application of fertilizers, herbicides, insecticides, or artificial chemicals. The entire property is EMF silent.

RESIDENCE
The house itself is a monolithic dome, a round dwelling that is built of structural concrete with an exterior insulation layer of urethane. All materials used in construction are non-toxic. The ventilation system protects the inhabitants from exterior pollution.

LIVING ARRANGEMENTS
When six people occupy the three bedroom house, per night cost is competitive with Motel 6. Reservations starting this September will be on line, and available soon.

The dome is not intended to be a permanent residence for a few sensitives, but instead a resource that returns sensitives to productivity and helps them re-engage with society. We are building a nation wide activist community.

HEALING MODALITIES
I am actively looking for healing practitioners in the Grass Valley area to provide services to dome residents. If you have had relief from a specific healing modality (homeopathy, acupuncture, nutrition…) please inform us

Please forward this email to affected people.

Thanks for your interest in the Silent Dome Spa.”

May 24, 2013
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That’s a great place to have. I might need to go there. Is it safe for mold and chemical sensitives as well? And, what is an E&M silent computer? I never heard of it.

May 25, 2013
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That is an excellent idea! I am sure more & more EMF-free places will be popping up as more people realize where their problems are coming from, & that microwaves are not harmless just because they do not thermally heat your tissue (like the FCC “supposedly” believes). How are you making your car EMF silent? Does it shield from microwave radiation?

May 25, 2013
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thadley said

That’s a great place to have. I might need to go there. Is it safe for mold and chemical sensitives as well? And, what is an E&M silent computer? I never heard of it.

Those are questions you need to ask Rob States…if I find his email I will post it here.

July 6, 2013
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Hi Lloyd,

Any way to contact Rob States about the Silent Dome Spa in Grass Valley, California?

And hello to all the wonderful Sensitives on this forum.

July 11, 2013
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Hi Violet
I’m sorry I don’t have contact details for Rob States – maybe someone will answer here.

July 13, 2013
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A google search turns up little or nothing!

October 10, 2013
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Hey Everyone

I went searching and found this on Facebook:

EMF Free Haven

Rob States, 415.927.2739 office, 415.596.2718 cell, 5 Mohawk Avenue, Corte Madera, CA 94925

I built a home in the Sierra Nevada mountains about 10 miles South of Grass Valley that is electromagnetically silent. The house is over 2 miles from any cell towers, and all power to the house is filtered. The house itself is designed with a combination of DC powered LED lights and low EMF emission appliances. The dome has E&M silent computers so sensitives can email while there, and use the same setup when they return home. We will have an EMF silent automobile parked at the Grass Valley airport for you to drive to the dome, and for local errands. Grass Valley itself has cell service, but the car will largely protect occupants. The intent of this home is to provide EMH sensitives a place to detox from symptoms, to get EMH testing, and to meet other sensitives. The property is 11 acres of heavy forest. All vegetation is native, with no application of fertilizers, herbicides, insecticides, or artificial chemicals. The entire property is EMF silent. The house itself is a monolithic dome, a round dwelling that is built of structural concrete with an exterior insulation layer of urethane. All materials used in construction are non-toxic. The ventilation system protects the inhabitants from exterior pollution. When six people occupy the three bedroom house, per night cost is competitive with Motel 6. Reservations starting this September will be on line, and available soon. Please forward this email to affected people.

Lucky there’s contact info here. I am in Grass Valley myself and it’s nice to know a place like this is being created for Electrically Sensitive folks. I’m seeing more and more people locally having trouble with Smart meters and then becoming sensitive to other wireless stuff as well. I can only imagine how many people are having problems that haven’t yet made the connection between their symptoms and RF radiation.

*J

December 22, 2013
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Wink This is just another case of someone buying land in the middle of nowhere that no one wants at an affordable price and doing something intelligent with it. The only thing a sensitive can do.

Rob States is great! He has much knowledge on these subjects that involve us, as well as being active. The people he knows are the same way. All we can do at this point is move out there in the wild somewhere. We are not going to change the world, as they are bent on wireless wreckage at all costs, but that does not mean we don’t go and speak out and fight for our cause in society.

We really need perm. low cost residential commumities to spring up in the warmer half of the US, but we also need as many EMF safe travel spots as possible. This is one.

All lodging, hotels and camp or RV spots now are blasted w/ wifi and the only options left are places like Rob’s or if you can tolerate a lg TV and computer to do your traveling virtually, but no one will want to be caught dead doing that. EMS people need to get away too and should be able to do so safely.

December 22, 2013
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CoolDon’t know how good an option this is, but it’s better than regular lodging. In the past this place had people living for extended time in the RV area, but don’t know what they do now. I felt good there, but it’s been years.

The place is called : FEYWOOD HOT SPRINGS located in New Mexico. They have day passes as well as camping w/ hook ups. I call a while back, in case I ever want to go for the day w/ friends or by myself and asked if they have wifi. No they do not. Rare for a camp area. They are not going to get it either. The owner feels people are there to get away not use wifi.

As far as really being safe I would say not entirely as people that are there use cellphones and I forgot to ask if they have opted out of the wireless meters or have an analog that is still there. Still it’s much safer than most hotels and if I end up moving far and need a place that might do over any other lodging. They have pools to soak in both clothing and clothing optional. They are natural hot springs. So if you are only moderately sensitive this could be something. If you have a hard time being in the vacinity of cell phones it could be a problem. But can be minimized by sitting accross the yard from a user.

December 22, 2013
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Cool Another place I want to mention is a completely safe area:

Greenbank, WV=10 miles of radio free area at least for now. Most people here know all about it but some may not so I am listing. I looked into it seriously, but was not able to consider it due to health reasons. The town allows NO wireless devices w/ in the ten miles. There are many sensitives in the area. There are very seldom rentals and property to buy starts at 20K for a real shanty on up. The lodging of course has no wifi due to the laws. It is radio free due to the big telescope there, that may or may not be able to keep funding and also the military base there requires also that it be a quiet area.

The reason I had to forgo it as an option is: The winters there are EXTREMELY harsh, more so than the colder spots of PA. It is so remote the only place for food is a small convenience store. I think there are 2 and they do not have clean food=GMO haven. It is over 2 hrs to a health or organic market and 1 and a half hours to a Kroger or other grocery store on remote windy roads. Snow is on the ground all winter. I called for days and weeks but could not find anyone who could chop and deliver and stack wood for heat and at least half the time am too sick w/ fibro to caryy wood into the house or tend a wood stove. There are no in home caretakers to help or people who plow and shovel you out from the heavy snow. I can not shovel or even be out in that kind of weather as my health doesn’t allow any exposure to cold temps. I could live being confined to the house 9 mos with out so much as going out once, I do that here, but there are minimal helpers for higher, though hard to get. I have food bought to me every week. Not there. They say that place is not for the frail and disabled.

They do have a co op that orders organic food, I believe once a month but you have to go unload it off the delivery truck the way they do at whole foods receiving docks. If you are not able to shovel or get out in snow that will not do. No way to refill drinking water and culligan only delivers their BPA packed water to the main drag.

You have to be strong and in good health and be able to tolerate serious cold and harsh winters and many day of that you will have your power out and must use a generator.

If you are in good health and can take the cold in any way this may be a wonder life saving haven for you and in that case I’d go for it w/ out a second thought.

March 20, 2015
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I live near Green Bank, WV on the Virginia side in the mountains. We are part of the Quiet Zone but they are allowed to put in towers, etc with permission in my county. Currently almost my entire county is wireless free (very large county) with lots of mountains also available for blockage but my county is now trying to put in broad band and towers everywhere even though we have high speed wired internet available to everyone and have no real need for broad band. I have moved so many times because of my EMF sensitivities and moving one more spot over to Green Bank may not be the answer since that laboratory can shut down at any time. There is no other place for me to go. Every rural area I’ve checked has an enormous amount of cell towers, high power lines, substations, broad band or wireless service because most of these rural areas don’t have high speed wired internet. I want to fight the installation here but I need help doing it and don’t know how to go about it. A friend of mine and I want to open up a permaculture property with natural non-toxic, chemical free, and EMF free homes that people could rent, or live in. I would like to get zoning approved for a quiet zone too so we don’t have to try to keep moving every time some one tries to put up another tower or something. Any help or ideas would be appreciated. All of our food will be grown on the property but we do have access to organic grocery stores (buying in bulk and storing over the Winter) and organic purchasing clubs here. I do my own animals, meat, butchering, etc. We plan on doing a permaculture property that can be an educational facility as well. Anyone wanting to invest in land, help out in anyway, or move out here is more than welcome to email me at mustobeyacts2_38@yahoo.com. My name is Tara. I can no longer work outside, drive more than short distances (due to the EMFs in the vehicles), or hang out in wireless places due to my chemical, heavy metal, and EMF sensitivities but other than this I am actually very healthy and have been doing organic for about 20 years. I have no natural allergies just can’t seem to handle toxic poisons and artificial elements. I live in a county that is one of the most beautiful places in the world. I absolutely love it here. I’ve lived in NJ, Japan, Hawaii and have traveled to some other countries. The summers here are absolutely beautiful. They are not extremely hot and humid just nice. We do get snow in the Winter. I love it and I walk my dog everyday outside. I plan on having horses for transportation as well along with some snow shoes but really you don’t have to go anywhere in the Winter here if you don’t want to. We drive through the mountains here all the time in the Winter with no problems. The road clearing service her is excellent and the roads here are always more clear than the cities. They don’t take chances with mountain roads here. If anyone knows of any flyers, reports, or power point slides that are already made that can be sent to the government or to my town that explains the dangers of EMFS that I can use, please let me know. I actually can not get on my computer much because it makes me very sick even though there is no wireless. I would like some info to present to my town to try to stop the wireless. Also, if anyone knows where I can find a list of companies or individuals that can be hired to test buildings for EMF hot spots and knows how to properly filter or shield for schools, homes, etc and not just an electrician who will come by and say everything is okay. Please let me know. I would like to have this info to present to my town so they can help our homes and schools be filtered better. Any other suggestions contact me please. Thanks.

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Regarding Green Bank, WV:
AT&T uses low-power antennas to prevent cellular interference with telescope
http://www.computerworld.com/a…..scope.html

The Green Bank Radio Telescope in Green Bank, West Virginia, is protected by a radio quiet zone that covers Snowshoe Mountain Ski Resort and other areas so there is no radio interference as the telescope does its job of exploring the universe. AT&T devised a low-power system to allow cell phones to work at the resort. Credit: NRAO/AUI

Software automatically adjusts smartphones to low-power mode at Snowshoe ski resort in West Virginia

Matt Hamblen By Matt Hamblen FOLLOW
Computerworld | Mar 23, 2016 12:28 PM PT

AT&T engineered an unusual low-power antenna system inside a radio quiet zone at a snow resort in rural West Virginia, giving thousands of daily smartphone users network access for the first time.

Work on the multimillion-dollar solution started in 2013 and took months of testing with engineers at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO) and staff at Snowshoe Mountain Ski Resort.

The custom-designed Distributed Antenna System (DAS) network went operational in 2015 and worked well for skiers over the past winter, according to Steven Little, senior radio access network engineer at AT&T.

Little compared AT&T’s deployment of 200 different indoor and outdoor antennas working at very low power to the technology equivalent of whispering in a library to avoid disturbing others. “Nobody has anything like it other than AT&T,” he said in an interview on Wednesday.

The low-power approach was vital to minimize possible harmful electromagnetic interference with the Green Bank Radio Telescope, a steerable telescope spanning 2.3 acres, that is part of the radio observatory.

Snowshoe Resort and the NRAO all sit within a 13,000-square-mile National Radio Quiet Zone that includes Pocahontas County and the Monongahela National Forest on the West Virginia border with Virginia, about a three-hour drive from Washington. The radio quiet zone was established in 1958 to minimize the interference to the Green Bank telescope, according to Karen O’Neil, Green Bank site director, in a blog.

The Green Bank telescope is so sensitive that it is used to find evidence of the Big Bang in the universe. It can detect “one billionth of a billionth of one millionth of a watt of energy, which is less energy that a snowflake hitting the ground,” Little said.

Knowing that, Little and other engineers had their work cut out for them. He has worked for 25 years in the radio access field and has designed antenna systems for stadiums, hospitals and other large venues to prevent radio interference by thousands of cellular users all trying to connect to a network at once.

The biggest challenge engineers faced was reducing the power used by ordinary smartphones to prevent interference. “Nobody had done this before, and nobody knew how to do it,” Little said. “It was really just a box with a big question mark on it, a riddle.”

The team ended up deploying about 200 DAS antennas from two suppliers. These antennas are contained in boxes and used in and outside of 11 buildings at the resort. “We had to get the power level of the DAS down to the requirements of NRAO, which was actually straightforward,” he said. “The tricky part was getting the user equipment [including typical smartphones] to keep their power below the needed threshold and then design the DAS to work with that.”

AT&T ended up writing software that automatically switches a Snowshoe user’s phone to low-power mode. The Snowshoe users’ phones are reduced to 500 times below their normal power, at 1/1000th of a watt or less. A cell phone normally emits 500 milliwatts when in use, Little said.

The DAS antennas are directional and can control the energy emitted to focus in a specific direction, to keep it from spilling out to other areas. The DAS antennas at Snowshoe have a range of about 40 feet, which is well below the 100 feet or more used in typical DAS deployments. By comparison, a typical cell tower can have a range of up to 15 miles.

At Snowshoe, AT&T also increased the density of the antennas to accommodate the shorter range. At a large outdoor venue serving 85,000 Boy Scouts elsewhere in West Virginia, AT&T installed about 30 DAS antennas, compared to the 200 at Snowshoe.

About three miles of fiber-optic cable connect the DAS antennas, according to O’Neil. With the DAS network operational, inspectors from the observatory and AT&T check power levels regularly, and sometimes daily, to detect any interference, she said.

Little said the work at Snowshoe will inform future projects that address growing demands on cellular networks. “Network densification is where everything is going … to increase the capacity of the network,” he said.

“To increase the capacity, you have to shrink the cell size,” he added. “We’ll take the lessons learned at Snowshoe to help in other areas in terms of better performance with less noise. It’s been a unique experience and we gained a lot of insight.”

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